‘Sheep stealers from the north of England’:
the Riding Clans in Ulster by Robert Bell
The following by;
George MacDonald Fraser author of;
The Steel Bonnets: The Story of the Anglo-Scottish Border Reivers
Skyhorse Publishing Inc., 2008 – History – 384 pages
This is to show the development of name Crozier and how it relates to the development of the name Elliot.
Shows pre English Civil War, a link between, the Croser (Crozier), Elliot, and Armstrong in their Border Privy Council.
Crozier Elliot 1891 ancestry.com
Crozier-Crosier shows a strong Northumbria distribution.
It is felt some Crozier of Liddesdale, Scotland may have move to Tyndale England at the time of The Union-Border Pacification at beginning of seventeenth century.
Note for Elliot is of Liddesdale, which became Elliott representing the major amount of all Elliot variants.
Allied Clans (added 1/5/2017); Armstrong, Elliott, Crozier, Nixon, all show a population density in Fermanagh, Ulster, Ireland. Which corresponds to Robert Bell, of Ulster article;
Indicating a pre England-Scotland, Anglo-Danish Northumbria distribution, where the Crozier and Elliot are quite similar.
Name origins felt to be southern France.
It is felt that most of today’s Crozier and Elliot have are of Scandinavian origins an have adopted names from southern France.
For surname Crozier-Crosier;
Note; Crozier are in southern France.
It is felt that the name Le Cros, became Crosier, then Crozier;
Crosier is of Northumberland, England, and Crozier is of Roxburgh, Scotland. The Scots like to differentiate their names from the English. Elliot is the Scottish Border standard.
From world names puplic profilier;
St. Germains Eliot are of Breton France. Where the Scots with the name Ellot, kept the double “l” in various spellings.
UK Elliott shows both English and Scottish distributions;
This shows an “i” was inserted ca1650, and an extra “t” was added for the Scot’s Ellot.
In Irish 1630 muster the Scots spelled their name Ellot.
Ireland the single “t” spelling is at the highest.
The United States having been separated from the United Kingdom the longest, had the longest time to not recognize themselves as Scots, and added an extrat “t”.
The names are of Southern France, but the people with the names Crozier, and Elliot are Scandinavian.
Crozier mainly R-M269 DNA;
Mark S. Elliott; has a number of Scarborough and Cave matches from the the Scarborough of Durham, and North and South Cave of East Riding Yorkshire, all of old Northumbria.
Which is an indications of a pre-surname link of and Elliott to those which tie their surnames to these localities.
For more information;
A William le Gros (Cros) built Scarborough castle;
• William le Gros Earl of Yorkshire (Count of Aumale) died 1179 could easily be the influence of the Croyser of today’s border region being of Yorkshire. Name similarities exist between, Le Cros and Le Gros and today’s Crozier and Grozier surnames. William le Gros, owned Scarborough Castle. Borough means fort and is symbolized on the shield of Scarborough. Scarborough is of AngloSaxon origins, and people with the surname Scarborough are known to be from Scarborough. The Y-DNA of the people named Scarborough was used to locate an entry point into the British Isles, of an Elfwald/Elwald. Name version of Crozier with a G; Grosar, Grosars, Grossars (RB Armstrong), Gros, and Grozier, which OCR (optical character recognition), sometimes read the upper case C as a G, is questioned if the document is handwritten, that it may have been transcribed in the past with a C transcribed as a G. William le Gros, Count of Aumale, was a powerful Anglo-Norman baron and grand-nephew of William the Conqueror.
Cros and Gros show similar distribution patterns.
Clan Ellot chiefs lived near the Crosar of Riccarton, on the upper Liddel;
Crozier occupied lands in the Upper Liddesdale near the Elliot.
Riccarton Tower remains, at O.(Over) Riccarton.
Land in which Robert Elwald (ie Ellot) became of Redheugh is listed in a sasine (deed) of the later 15th Century;
A John and Quiton Crosar (Crozier) are listed with the witnesses on the deed.
Wonder where Keith Elliot Hunter acquired it from?
Map of above Robert is living in Lariston, and Martin in nearby Prickenhaugh. Martin was living on Bothwell lease of Braidley near Hermitage Castle, then moved to Redheugh land of Prickinghaugh, likely when his older brother Robert 15 was not living there, but his son Robert 16 (son of sister Jean Scot of Buccleuch, and designated chief) of Redheugh land was living in Lariston and his half brother William first living with father in Lariston, moved on to land of his mother Margaret to Harstgarth, where peel was built by Robert 15.
The Martin Elwald of Redheugh, is likely brother to Robert Elwald 15 of Redheugh, and died early, so the next generation menti on above Robert Ellot is Robert 16, half brother William Ellot of Hartsgrath, and Gilbert Elliot who’s first son is William, and his first son is Sir Gilbert. Robert 15 first daughter is Margaret, named after his mistress Margaret Kidd, not after his wife Jean Scot sister to Buccleuch. 5-16-2016 MSE
The 1704 Lariston family tree was so important it was one of the items which survived the Stobs fire of 1720 showing Robert Elliot 15 is of Lariston and his brother Martin is of Prickinghaugh.
Scandinavian forms of Crozier and Elliot show up in distribution mapping.
Mark S. Elliott 2/1/2016
Ellwood Distribution shows Cumbria, England.
James V. Elliott on origins of Elliot of Ellwood (Elwold, Elwould) variant origin may be Cumberland.
James V. Elliott lead the Elliot DNA (reiver) project with excellent conclusion, below is work he had impact on;
Arthur Eliott showing dual origins of the clan;
Elliot surname distribution shows it also;
In Response To;
Draft:Clan Crozier-Ellwood – Speedy deletion Wiki – Wikia
Comment: It is very true when you end on the note “because the above may need many rewrites to get the proper concepts across fro Clan Crozier-Ellwood”.
Comment: It is very true when you end on the note “because the above may need many rewrites to get the proper concepts across fro Clan Crozier-Ellwood”. And as I can’t find anything when searching for “Crozier-Ellwood” I’m about to say this is a little prank. But prove me wrong. — Sam Sailor Talk! 12:59, 21 September 2015
In Construction a Draft
This article is to try to established, vanquished clans, and will be dependent on being a sept? of the unvanquished Clan Armstrong that of the Crozier and Ellwood, which is felt to compliment each other and not think alike. From the Ellwood, will be taking the established arms, a set of arms previous to the Redheugh/Stobs Eliott, but retain the stag head theme of both clan, and brought to America, likely by Ulster Crozier. The Crosier family has established a tartan on their own, and this tartan will be the tartan of the combined clan, since the Ellwood do not have a tartan. The clans are complimentary. One clan has to offer what the other needs to make a clan.
The Ellwood, is basically of the Elwold (Elwould, Elwode), family line, and does not have any linguistic connection to Wm de Aliot, of southern France, though it is known that in the past the UK Clan Elliot has claimed them today they do not recognize the migration path from Croyland to Cumberland, of the Ellwood which Clan Armstrong does, a long which surname distribution patterns of the surname Ellwood. The UK Elliot Clan have taken a path of singularity unlike the previous chief of a singular French Norman origin, of which the Ellwood, like the Armstrong have an Anglo-Saxon Germanic origin.
Today the major populace because the name Elwold of Germanic-“wold”, migrated to the English word “wood” which different linguistic origins, but similar in meaning of “small forest”, “a wold/wood”, and the name basically into Scotland went as “wald” (forest).
The Ellwood will compliment the Crozier in there locality of migration being similar to the earlier Crozier, and the Crozier migration being similar to the ancestors of the Ellwood, which migrated into Scotland and onto Ireland. So putting the two together gives a more complete migration of many of the Scottish Clan names.
Hopefully the reader will realize the direction, and can pitch in on the direction, because the above may need many rewrites to get the proper concepts across fro Clan Crozier-Ellwood.
Categories: AfC submissions by date/20 September 2015
Appreciate the synopsis on a deleted article I once submitted, to bring about more understanding of what I must have been trying to get across. At least I now have a tartan which may be considered by the Gorrenberry branch of Elliott.
Ellwood, though carried over to Ulster as Elwood, is mainly a name which migrated northwest to Cumberland of Cumbria, England, and on crossing over into Scotland the form became Ellot (Elliot).
Mark S. Elliott 2/8/2016
Crozier early genealogy supplement;
The Croziers, now rarely represented, belonged to an old border clan seated at Liddisdale, Roxburghshire, in the 16th century.
Homes of Family Names in Great Britain (1890) by Henry Brougham Guppy Page 313.
This surname is derived from an official title. ‘the crosier,’ one who carried the bishop’s cross or pastoral staff. ‘Crocere, crociarius’:
Promptorium Parvulorum Way, commenting on this word, quotes concerning the martyrdom of St. Thomas of Canterbury, ‘one Syr
Edward Gryme, that was his croyser, put for the his arme with the crosse to bere of the stroke’: Legenda Aur. (v. the full note,
Simon le Croyser, temp. 1300. Writs of Parliament.
Mabel le Croyser. Calendarium Rotulorum Originalium.
William Croyser. Calendarium Rotulorum Originalium.
Cristiana Croiser, 1379: Poll Tax of Yorkshire.
Johannes Croser, 1379: ibid.
John Crosier, Norfolk, 6 Henry V: History of Norfolk.
William Crosier, Norfolk, 46 Edward III: ibid.
1775. Married — Laurence Neilson and Esther Croser: St. George, Hanover Square.
1787. — Samuel Burrows and Alice Crozier: ibid.
A dictionary of English and Welsh surnames, with special American instances by Bardsley, Charles Wareing Endell, 1843-1898; Bardsley, A., “Mrs. Charles Wareing Bardsley,” ed page 219 Published 1901
Fermanagh muster ca1630
John Crozer Lurgg L. Blennerhasset’s churchlands Fermanagh
Note; William Grocer above/
Scot’s Charitable Society of Boston
Note; William Cosser, above and below.
In June 3, 1675 Henry Brown and James Orr , Scotchmen, were residents of Wells, Maine and one given list.
Ulster muster ca1630 for Cross;
Muster Roll Of The County Of Fermanagh 1631;
John Croser Magherboy G. Hume Fermanagh
Robert Crosse Loughty B. Taylor Cavan
Edward Crosse Castleraine Bishop of Kilmore Cavan
John Crosse Castleraine Bishop of Kilmore Cavan
Richard Crosse Clankelly Mr Sedburrogh Fermanagh
John Crosse Eneshone Lord Chichester Donegal
John Crozer Lurgg L. Blennerhasset’s churchlands Fermanagh